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Wednesday, November 26, 2003


Ms Lauren

EXCELLENT analogy. I posted this to my pre-service teachers bulletain board and will likely get some strong responses to it. Thanks for sharing!

Butterfly Gemini

If you could post the link to the pre-service bulletin board you posted this to, I would enjoy reading their responses as well. Thanks!


Why do states have this kind of testing? To take a phrase for the terror-apologists, 'WE NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE ROOT CAUSES'

1. school districts have been amazingly unresponsive to improving a dismal educational record.
2. Unions make it so hard to get rid of dead wood, that districts here in Florida often PROMOTE the bad teachers to get them out of the classroom.
3. Students have taken advantage of lax discipline.
4. Parents no longer give a united front with teachers, but are either neutral, absent or hostile to teacher and administrative discipline of their child.

SOOOOO, testing attempts to do the following...
1A – put the fear of vouch... er, um, God in sluggish districts (sorry- almost slipped and said the v-word)
2A – score points against their political opponents - union supported Democrats
3A – force students to focus on classwork out of fear of being held back or not graduating
4A – not much can be done to obstinate parents. Hopefully the shame of an underachieving student will help, but people are pretty shameless these days.

Oh yeah, BTW, I am a government school teacher. I know because I see it daily.

david foster

A nice piece of writing, but...dental care in the U.S. works reasonably well. The public schools don't. If half the people who went to dentists wound up getting worse instead of better, I bet we'd all be lobbying for a measurement program.

You're certainly correct that different schools have different "clienteles" which can't be expected to all immediately achieve the same performance, but this isn't an argument against measurment, merely an argument for doing the measurement intelligently...for example, "before" and "after" testing for the same class.


great article! i'm a teaching intern for ninth graders, so i'm drowning in all of this testing business...


Decent analogy...being a student that actually wants to *cough* be challenged in my education, I do believe that this act is simply another way to water education down... it's pretty much all centered around standardized testing which, to put it lightly, is of the devil...I believe students will rise to what is expected of them- at least those who have some form of ambition. Today, education is made too easy. No child gets left behind *laughs* those who are getting left behind are choosing to be left behind. What about those who want to keep going?

Ms Lauren

I just saw that you requested the bulletain board. Alas, it'a gated community. But luckily, many of us are participating in a blog project this semester.


See you there!


Thanks for discussing it with us but the thing which is wrong with me is that I'm very much careless when it comes to health. I don't really feel like going up for routine check ups. I've not been caught by freaky disease fluently. This could be one reason I don't really bother going up to doc.


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DP, your comment is noted, but when teachers get paid to work with one student at a time like dentists do, you would see and expect much better results.

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